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==What are count nouns?==
==What are count nouns?==
===Definition===
A count noun can be used with the indefinite article (e.g.: "un livre, des livres") and usually have both singular and plural forms.
A count noun can be used with the indefinite article (e.g.: "un livre, des livres") and usually have both singular and plural forms.
===Typical count nouns===
{| class="wikitable"
!French
!Translation
|-
|une bouteille
|a bottle
|-
|un chien
|a dog
|-
|des bouteilles
|bottles
|-
|une personne
|a person
|-
|des chiens
|dogs
|-
|des personnes
|people
|}


==What's a Mass Noun?==
==What's a Mass Noun?==
===Definition===
A Mass Noun refer to something that cannot be counted (e.g. a substance: "de l'air" or quality: "de la sagesse") and typically has only a singular form (although some mass nouns only have a plural form):
A Mass Noun refer to something that cannot be counted (e.g. a substance: "de l'air" or quality: "de la sagesse") and typically has only a singular form (although some mass nouns only have a plural form):


== Examples ==
===Typical mass nouns===
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="2" |Typical count nouns 
! colspan="2" |Typical mass nouns
|-
!French
!Translation
!French
!French
!Translation
!Translation
|-
|-
|une bouteille
|a  bottle
|de l'air
|de l'air
|air
|air
|-
|-
|un chien
|a  dog
|de l'eau
|de l'eau
|water
|water
|-
|-
|des bouteilles
|bottles
|du beurre
|du beurre
|butter
|butter
|-
|-
|une personne
|a person
|des gens
|des gens
|people
|people
|-
|-
|des chiens
|dogs
|du gâteau
|du gâteau
|cake
|cake
|-
|-
|des personnes
|people
|du sable
|du sable
|sand
|sand
|}
|}


Mass nouns in French are usually accompanied by the partitive article - du, de V, de la or des - in those cases where English has 'some' or no article at all:
Mass nouns in French usually go with the article "du", "de l'", "de la" or "des" - in cases where the English has "some" or no article:
*Je voudrais du lait, s'il vous plaît
*Je voudrais du pain
I would like some milk, please
<blockquote>I would like some bread</blockquote>
 
*II y a du beurre dans le tiroir
*II y a du vin dans le placard
<blockquote>There's butter in the drawer</blockquote>
There's wine in the cupboard
==“personnes” and “gens”==
“personnes” and “gens”, both of which mean 'people', differ in their uses because personne is a count noun and gens a mass noun. Only personne can be preceded by a number (e.g. cinq), or the quantifiers plusieurs 'several', quelques 'a few', un certain nombre de 'a certain number of:
 
 
*Les cinq personnes ('''NOT''' <s>gens</s>) qui ont mangé avec nous
The five people who ate with us


==“Les personnes” and “Les gens”==
“Les personnes” and “Les gens”, both of which mean "people", differ in their uses because personne is a count noun and gens a mass noun. Only personne can be preceded by a number (e.g. cinq), or the quantifiers plusieurs 'several', quelques 'a few', un certain nombre de 'a certain number of:


"personnes" and "gens", which both mean "people", are used differently because "personne" is an count noun while people is a a mass noun. Only "personne" can be preceded by a number (for example "cinq"), or the quantifiers "quelques" (some), "un certain nombre de" (a number of), "plusieurs" (several):
*Les 6 personnes ('''NOT''' <s>gens</s>) qui sont venus nous voir
<blockquote>The 6 people who came to see us</blockquote>
*Plusieurs personnes ('''NOT''' <s>gens</s>) ont étaient sur la plage
<blockquote>Several people were on the beach</blockquote>


*Plusieurs personnes ('''NOT''' <s>gens</s>) sont restées tout l'après-midi
Likewise, "gens" is preferred in contexts where “people” are treated as a mass:
Several people stayed for the whole afternoon
*Les gens ('''NOT''' <s>personnes</s>) n'aiment pas rester dans le froid trop longtemps
<blockquote>People don't like to stay in the cold for too long</blockquote>


 
'''Note''': gens can be preceded by beaucoup de 'many', peu de 'few', tous les 'all the' and la plupart des 'most'.
 
"gens" can be preceded by "beaucoup" (many), "peu de" (few), "la plupart des" (most) and "tous les" (all the).
By the same token, gens is preferred in contexts where 'people' are treated as a mass:
*Les gens ('''NOT''' <s>personnes</s>) n'aiment pas rester à table trop longtemps
People don't like to spend too long over a meal
 
'''NB''': gens can be preceded by beaucoup de 'many', peu de 'few', tous les 'all the' and la plupart des 'most'.


==Mass nouns used countably==
==Mass nouns used countably==
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==Other Chapters==
==Other Chapters==
{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}
{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}
==Other Lessons==
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Ordinal-numbers-as-fractions|Ordinal numbers as fractions]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Omission-of-the-article-in-noun-constructions-linked-by-de|Omission of the article in noun constructions linked by de]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Impersonal-vs-Personal|Impersonal vs Personal]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Measurements-and-comparisons-in-French-—-Numeral-nouns-and-approximations|Measurements and comparisons in French — Numeral nouns and approximations]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Imperative-mood|Imperative mood]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Use-of-stressed-pronouns-for-emphasis|Use of stressed pronouns for emphasis]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Reflexive-use-of-me,-te,-se,-nous,-vous|Reflexive use of me, te, se, nous, vous]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/How-to-tell-the-time|How to tell the time]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Agreement-of-the-past-participle-when-using-“avoir”-with-a-preceding-direct-object|Agreement of the past participle when using “avoir” with a preceding direct object]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/How-to-use-Have|How to use Have]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Adverbs-ending-in-—ément-derived-from-adjectives-ending-in-—e|Adverbs ending in —ément derived from adjectives ending in —e]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Subject-verb-agreement|Subject verb agreement]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Gender|Gender]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Nouns-that-are-only-masculine-or-only-feminine-But-may-refer-to-both-men-and-women|Nouns that are only masculine or only feminine But may refer to both men and women]]
* [[Language/French/Grammar/Position-of-object-pronouns-with-faire,-laisser,-envoyer-or-verbs-of-perception-+-infinitive|Position of object pronouns with faire, laisser, envoyer or verbs of perception + infinitive]]
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Mass versus count nouns

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What are count nouns?[edit | edit source]

Definition[edit | edit source]

A count noun can be used with the indefinite article (e.g.: "un livre, des livres") and usually have both singular and plural forms.

Typical count nouns[edit | edit source]

French Translation
une bouteille a bottle
un chien a dog
des bouteilles bottles
une personne a person
des chiens dogs
des personnes people

What's a Mass Noun?[edit | edit source]

Definition[edit | edit source]

A Mass Noun refer to something that cannot be counted (e.g. a substance: "de l'air" or quality: "de la sagesse") and typically has only a singular form (although some mass nouns only have a plural form):

Typical mass nouns[edit | edit source]

French Translation
de l'air air
de l'eau water
du beurre butter
des gens people
du gâteau cake
du sable sand

Mass nouns in French usually go with the article "du", "de l'", "de la" or "des" - in cases where the English has "some" or no article:

  • Je voudrais du pain

I would like some bread

  • II y a du beurre dans le tiroir

There's butter in the drawer

“Les personnes” and “Les gens”[edit | edit source]

“Les personnes” and “Les gens”, both of which mean "people", differ in their uses because personne is a count noun and gens a mass noun. Only personne can be preceded by a number (e.g. cinq), or the quantifiers plusieurs 'several', quelques 'a few', un certain nombre de 'a certain number of:

"personnes" and "gens", which both mean "people", are used differently because "personne" is an count noun while people is a a mass noun. Only "personne" can be preceded by a number (for example "cinq"), or the quantifiers "quelques" (some), "un certain nombre de" (a number of), "plusieurs" (several):

  • Les 6 personnes (NOT gens) qui sont venus nous voir

The 6 people who came to see us

  • Plusieurs personnes (NOT gens) ont étaient sur la plage

Several people were on the beach

Likewise, "gens" is preferred in contexts where “people” are treated as a mass:

  • Les gens (NOT personnes) n'aiment pas rester dans le froid trop longtemps

People don't like to stay in the cold for too long

Note: gens can be preceded by beaucoup de 'many', peu de 'few', tous les 'all the' and la plupart des 'most'. "gens" can be preceded by "beaucoup" (many), "peu de" (few), "la plupart des" (most) and "tous les" (all the).

Mass nouns used countably[edit | edit source]

Some mass nouns can be used countably to refer to specific examples of the substance in question:

French Translation
les vins de France  the wines of Trance
les Eaux et Forêts  the Trench Torestry Commission
les fromages de Normandie  the cheeses of Normandy
un pain  a loaf of bread
un petit pain  a bun

Some count nouns can also be used as mass nouns:

French Translation
Prenez du poulet  Have some chicken
Il met du citron dans tout  He puts lemon in everything


Types of Nouns (all lessons)[edit source]

Other Chapters[edit | edit source]

Table of Contents

Nouns


Determiners


Personal and impersonal pronouns


Adjectives


Adverbs


Numbers, measurements, time and quantifiers


Verb forms


Verb constructions


Verb and participle agreement


Tense


The subjunctive, modal verbs, exclamatives and imperatives


The infinitive


Prepositions


Question formation


Relative clauses


Negation


Conjunctions and other linking constructions

Other Lessons[edit | edit source]