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==Impersonal expressions==
* The pronoun "ce" is the apparent subject of the verb "être", but the real subject is a word (or group of words) after the verb.


* These expressions, constructed with the pronoun "ce" (or abbreviated "c'") and "être", are called impersonal expressions.


These expressions, constructed with the pronoun 'ce' (or its abbreviated c') and the verb "être", are said to be impersonal.  
===Example===
*'''Ce sont''' <u>eux</u> qui les ont emmenés à l'école. Oui, '''c'est''' bien <u>nous</u> qui les avons emmenés.


The pronoun 'ce' is the apparent subject of the verb to be, but the real subject is a word or a group of words after the verb.
<blockquote>They were the ones who took them to school. Yes, it is we who took them.</blockquote>


Example:
=="être" agrees with "ce"==
*Ce sont eux qui les ont conduits. Oui, c'est bien nous qui les avons conduits.


<blockquote>They are the ones who led them. Yes, it is we who led them.</blockquote>
Usually, "être" agrees with "ce" (apparent subject).


===Examples===
*'''Ce''' n'<nowiki/>''est'' pas <u>moi</u>, mais '''c'<nowiki/>'''''est'' <u>lui</u> qui fait la vaisselle.
<blockquote>It's not me, but he's the one who does the dishes.</blockquote>


*'''C'''<nowiki/>'<nowiki/>''est'' <u>vous</u> qui avez crié.
<blockquote>It was you who shouted.</blockquote>


Generally, the verb "être" agrees with the apparent subject 'ce'.
*''Est''-'''ce''' <u>toi</u> qui as commencé ?
<blockquote>Are you the one who started it?</blockquote>


Example:
==Agreement with the real subject in the 3<sup>rd</sup> person plural==
*Ce n'est pas moi, mais c'est lui qui a mangé tout le chocolat. C'est vous qui avez commencé. Est-ce toi qui as crié ?
However, in the case where the real subject (actually doing the action) is a noun or noun in the third person plural, then the verb "être" agrees with its real subject in the 3<sup>rd</sup> person plural, except in some cases (see below):


<blockquote>It was not me, but he was the one who ate all the chocolate. You started it. Did you scream?</blockquote>
=== Examples===
*'''Ce''' ''sont'' <u>tes parents</u> qui attendent devant la porte.
<blockquote>It's your parents who are waiting in front of the door.</blockquote>


In spoken French, it is sometimes accepted to link the verb to the apparent subject "ce" when the real subject is "eux" or "ceux" or an enumeration yet in the 3<sup>rd</sup> person plural.


*'''Ce''' ''sont'' toujours <u>eux</u> qui commencent à crier.
In the spoken language, it can sometimes be accepted to say :
*'''C'<nowiki/>'''''est'' toujours <u>eux</u> qui commencent à crier.
<blockquote>They are always the ones who start to scream.</blockquote>


However, in the case where the real subject (actually doing the action) is a noun or noun in the third person plural, then the verb to be agrees with its real subject in the third person plural, except in some cases (see below).
*Quels sont vos sports favoris ? Pour moi, '''ce''' ''sont'' <u>le jogging et le football</u>.
In the spoken language it may sometimes be accepted to say:
*Pour moi, '''c'est''' le dessin et la musique.
<blockquote>What are your favourite hobbies ? For me it is jogging and soccer.</blockquote>


Example:
==Frozen expressions==
*Ce sont tes parents au téléphone.
Some expressions tend to stay in the present tense more and more often.
<blockquote>It's your parents on the phone.</blockquote>
 
=== Example: ===
 
*"qui paiera la facture ? '''C'est''' moi !" NOT "ce sera moi !"  
 
<blockquote>who will pay the bill? It's me!</blockquote>
In spoken language, it can sometimes be accepted to match the verb with the apparent subject 'ce' when the real subject is 'eux' or 'ceux' or an enumeration yet in the third person plural.
 
Examples:
*Ce sont toujours eux qui font du bruit. Dans la langue parlée, il peut parfois être admis de dire : C'est toujours eux qui font du bruit.
<blockquote>They are always the ones who make the noise. In the spoken language, it can sometimes be accepted to say: It is always they who make the noise.</blockquote>
 
 
*Quels sont vos loisirs préférés ? Pour moi, ce sont le tennis et la natation. Dans la langue parlée, il peut parfois être admis de dire : Pour moi, c'est le dessin et la musique.
<blockquote>What are your favourite hobbies ? For me it is tennis and swimming. In the spoken language, it can sometimes be accepted to say: For me, it is drawing and music.</blockquote>
 
 
 
Some expressions tend to stay in the present tense more and more often (example: "qui paiera la facture ? C'est moi !" NOT "ce sera moi !" who will pay the bill? It's me!).




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* si ce n'est,  
* si ce n'est,  
<blockquote>if not</blockquote>
<blockquote>if not</blockquote>


* si ce n'était
* si ce n'était
<blockquote>if it were not</blockquote>
<blockquote>if it were not</blockquote>


* n'est-ce pas?
* n'est-ce pas?
<blockquote>is it not?</blockquote>
<blockquote>is it not?</blockquote>


* est-ce que
* est-ce que
<blockquote>is it</blockquote>
<blockquote>is it</blockquote>


* serait-ce
* serait-ce
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* fût-ce
* fût-ce
<blockquote>was it</blockquote>
<blockquote>was it</blockquote>


* c'est-à-dire
* c'est-à-dire
<blockquote>that's to say</blockquote>
<blockquote>that's to say</blockquote>
== Summary ==
{| class="wikitable"
!'''c'est'''
!'''ce sont'''
!'''ce sont''' (c'est)
!'''frozen expressions'''
|-
|in general
|real subject in 3rd person plural
|preferably "ce sont" but the spoken language sometimes admits 'c'est' when the actual subject is 'eux', 'ceux' or an enumeration
|si ce n'est, si ce n'était, n'est-ce pas, est-ce que, serait-ce, fût-ce, c'est-à-dire, etc.
|}
==Video in French: Différence entre "C'est" et "Ce sont"==
<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FElxuzzNFXE</youtube>


==Source==
==Source==
https://www.francaisfacile.com/exercices/exercice-francais-2/exercice-francais-3555.php
* https://polyglotclub.com/wiki/Language/French/Grammar/%22C%27est%22-or-%22Ce-sont%22
* https://www.francaisfacile.com/exercices/exercice-francais-2/exercice-francais-3555.php
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FElxuzzNFXE

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When use "C'est", When use "Ce sont" ?

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Impersonal expressions[edit | edit source]

  • The pronoun "ce" is the apparent subject of the verb "être", but the real subject is a word (or group of words) after the verb.
  • These expressions, constructed with the pronoun "ce" (or abbreviated "c'") and "être", are called impersonal expressions.

Example[edit | edit source]

  • Ce sont eux qui les ont emmenés à l'école. Oui, c'est bien nous qui les avons emmenés.

They were the ones who took them to school. Yes, it is we who took them.

"être" agrees with "ce"[edit | edit source]

Usually, "être" agrees with "ce" (apparent subject).

Examples[edit | edit source]

  • Ce n'est pas moi, mais c'est lui qui fait la vaisselle.

It's not me, but he's the one who does the dishes.

  • C'est vous qui avez crié.

It was you who shouted.

  • Est-ce toi qui as commencé ?

Are you the one who started it?

Agreement with the real subject in the 3rd person plural[edit | edit source]

However, in the case where the real subject (actually doing the action) is a noun or noun in the third person plural, then the verb "être" agrees with its real subject in the 3rd person plural, except in some cases (see below):

Examples[edit | edit source]

  • Ce sont tes parents qui attendent devant la porte.

It's your parents who are waiting in front of the door.

In spoken French, it is sometimes accepted to link the verb to the apparent subject "ce" when the real subject is "eux" or "ceux" or an enumeration yet in the 3rd person plural.

  • Ce sont toujours eux qui commencent à crier.

In the spoken language, it can sometimes be accepted to say :

  • C'est toujours eux qui commencent à crier.

They are always the ones who start to scream.

  • Quels sont vos sports favoris ? Pour moi, ce sont le jogging et le football.

In the spoken language it may sometimes be accepted to say:

  • Pour moi, c'est le dessin et la musique.

What are your favourite hobbies ? For me it is jogging and soccer.

Frozen expressions[edit | edit source]

Some expressions tend to stay in the present tense more and more often.

Example:[edit | edit source]

  • "qui paiera la facture ? C'est moi !" NOT "ce sera moi !"

who will pay the bill? It's me!


Finally, some expressions are frozen by use:

  • si ce n'est,

if not

  • si ce n'était

if it were not

  • n'est-ce pas?

is it not?

  • est-ce que

is it

  • serait-ce

would it be

  • fût-ce

was it

  • c'est-à-dire

that's to say

Summary[edit | edit source]

c'est ce sont ce sont (c'est) frozen expressions
in general real subject in 3rd person plural preferably "ce sont" but the spoken language sometimes admits 'c'est' when the actual subject is 'eux', 'ceux' or an enumeration si ce n'est, si ce n'était, n'est-ce pas, est-ce que, serait-ce, fût-ce, c'est-à-dire, etc.

Video in French: Différence entre "C'est" et "Ce sont"[edit | edit source]

Source[edit | edit source]