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*'''auto''': Autonyms, separated by a slash. WORD1 / WORD2 : space before and after the slash. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> you are right because there can be comma in the name. This is important because each name will need to be extracted using the slash. There can be a large number of autonyms: only the first one or the one matching the request will be displayed. <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> In fact the first one may have no higher popularity than latte ones. And if it only shows one auto, it becomes meaningless to create many auto. I think there can be a textbox, which can follow the cursor. When the cursor moves to an item, the textbox shows all alter and auto. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> it must show directely the matching auto, else show the first auto. if move cursor over the line, show all auto (but I am afraid this will make the diplay not user friendly, too many things happening when the user select/hover a language). Create many auto is necessary in case the user type one of the auto in the list. <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> There should be many autos. But if only one can be shown, users won't know that we have so many. It's hidding the attractiveness. Omniglot does it here https://www.omniglot.com/writing/languages.htm <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> Ok, I'll try
*'''auto''': Autonyms, separated by a slash. WORD1 / WORD2 : space before and after the slash. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> you are right because there can be comma in the name. This is important because each name will need to be extracted using the slash. There can be a large number of autonyms: only the first one or the one matching the request will be displayed. <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> In fact the first one may have no higher popularity than latte ones. And if it only shows one auto, it becomes meaningless to create many auto. I think there can be a textbox, which can follow the cursor. When the cursor moves to an item, the textbox shows all alter and auto. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> it must show directely the matching auto, else show the first auto. if move cursor over the line, show all auto (but I am afraid this will make the diplay not user friendly, too many things happening when the user select/hover a language). Create many auto is necessary in case the user type one of the auto in the list. <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> There should be many autos. But if only one can be shown, users won't know that we have so many. It's hidding the attractiveness. Omniglot does it here https://www.omniglot.com/writing/languages.htm <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> Ok, I'll try


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[[File:arabic.jpg|thumb|none]]<span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> It's very clear. I have noticed that it's better to have a <nowiki><hr/></nowiki> between Andalusian Arabic and Judeo-Yemeni Arabic. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> Ok I'll add a break line at the end of the family members
<span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> Why can't I see adds? <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> VIP don't have ads: <span style=" color: red">https://polyglotclub.com/trust</span> <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel: Then why can you? :^)</span>
<span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> I have just realized that the word "family" is a linguistic term, and it is not appropriate here. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> 99,9% of our users are not linguists and the word family seemed understandable by usual people. "Macro language" does not mean anything for people. Do you know any other simple word? "Group"? <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> It's nearly impossible to replace "macrolanguage", because a macrolanguage is both one language and many languages. I think the word "family" or "group" should be omitted, because it changes "Arabic" from a noun to an adjective. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> I'll keep 'family' for now even if it's wrong from the linguist point of view. it will bother only 0.01% of people whereas if I write 'macrolanguage' it will bother 99.9% of people <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel: </span>I still think no word attaching is good. If you still want to use a word, then "cluster" is the best one, introduced from ''Handbook of African Languages''. "language cluster" seems to be the only alternative of "macrolanguage". <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> I did not get you were saying 'no word', ok, I will not use any word then. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> You say: "a macrolanguage is both one language and many languages" so it mean a member can add a macrolanguage as "Language you can teach" or "language you can learn"? <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> A macrolanguage can be considered as a language, because its dialects are very similar in writing, and one written dialect can be understood by people of other dialects. It is used in ISO 639-2. But in ISO 639-3, a macrolanguage is considered as many languages (instead of dialects), the reason is that the native speakers of those languages are mutually unintelligible (when speaking, and in many cases even when writing). So a member shouldn't select a macrolanguage as a "Language you can teach" or "Language you want to learn". <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> here we are using ISO 639-3, so a macrolanguage is not a language. for me, it's simply a group/category of languages.
<span style=" color: red">GrimPixel:</span> I think there are too many unnecessary "Arabic". So, that "Arabic" can be sticked on the top of the list when scroll down, until it meets the separate line. And then, those "Arabic" ("Arabic family" on the image) after each item can be removed. <span style=" color: red">Vincent:</span> Ok <span style=" color: red">GrimPixel: When typing an individual language, the macrolanguage it belongs to (if there is one) and a separate line should also be displayed.</span>
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*'''alter''': Alternative English names, separated by a slash. WORD1 / WORD2 : space before and after the slash.  There can be a large number of names: only the one matching the request will be displayed or nothing will be displayed.
*'''alter''': Alternative English names, separated by a slash. WORD1 / WORD2 : space before and after the slash.  There can be a large number of names: only the one matching the request will be displayed or nothing will be displayed.

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